The first time I heard of the GE GeoSpring Hybrid Hot Water Heater, I did a double take (virtually). I think I was looking for something totally unrelated and just accidentally stumbled upon it. This product is totally unique, and definitely takes domestic hot water generation in a new and interesting direction.
So first, we all know GE… just your typical technology, media, and financial services company that operates on a worldwide scale. And hot water heaters are just a drop in the bucket of GE products I could – and probably will eventually – review. But I think this is a good place to start for several reasons.
One, people are pretty familiar with the term ‘hybrid’ now. Just the word alone summons up warm fuzzy feelings about doing good for the environment.
Two, this is an area of energy-efficiency that hasn’t really been marketed too heavily to the average residential consumer yet (at least that I’ve seen).
And Three, Americans are very interested in energy efficiency now. For those that aren’t specifically interested in lowering their carbon footprint or wasting less resources, there’s the financial implications.
The GeoSpring claims to use 1,856 kW per year (62% less than a standard 50-gallon electric water heater, based on DOE test procedures at a 68°F ambient temperature), which correlates to an annual savings of $320 at approximately $0.106/kWh energy rate. It operates with a ‘dual fuel’ scenario that sends the ambient air through an evaporator to extract the heat and transfer it to the water. The unit obviously also includes a backup heat source – electricity – that is programmed to take over if the stored water temperature falls below the setpoint (adjustable). And of course, with a purchase price of $1,600 the unit qualifies for a federal tax credit for energy-efficient appliances of $480 (30% of the cost). This makes payback very quick – using the rate noted above – at slightly less than 4.5 years.
The unit sports a “user-friendly” electronic control system that allows consumers as much or as little control as they’d prefer. So someone like me could putter around with night setbacks, while someone less interested in that kind of thing could implement the ‘set it and forget it’ methodology.
So this thing is pretty much awesome, right? Well there’s one more question I had… if that heat extraction comes with an associated measurable temperature drop (that could act as a benefit in the summer and an area of deficiency in the winter). Obviously this is only an issue depending on where the water heater is to be located (conditioned or non-conditioned space). GE does address this issue on their FAQ page, and states that “If our heat pump water heater is in a "conditioned space" inside the home such as in a utility room, the cooling and dehumidifying effect of the hybrid will decrease the load on the AC system during cooling months (summer) and increase the load on the furnace during heating months (winter).” And I can definitely get on board with an explanation like that.
So all in all, it sounds like the GeoSpring would be a good and interesting buy. Even with my low utility rate of $0.06/kWh payback is still a pretty reasonable 6.2 years. So when it comes time to replace my water heater, this is definitely an option I’ll be looking into.
Use of the GE GeoSpring Hybrid Hot Water Heater may contribute to the following credits:
* EA Prerequisite 2: Minimum Energy Performance
* EA Credit 1: Optimize Energy Performance, Design and Construction
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AVOID The GE GeoSpring!
Wed, 12/07/2011 - 22:17 — AnonymousI installed one of these in July 2010, and loved it. It dehumidified our basement, and saved our family of 4 about $40 per month on electricity (but Connecticut has high electric rates). Unfortunately, after less than 17 months, it sprang a leak due to corrosion. The parts and service warranty is only good for a year, and GE claims that corrosion isn't covered by their 10 year parts warranty. Save yourself a lot of money and trouble, and buy a different brand.
Excellent concept, but frequent compressor failure is alarming
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 22:15 — AnonymousWe first spotted the GeoSpring at a home show three months BEFORE it was available in our area.
We did a lot of research and everything looked great. We have recommended the GeoSpring numerous times over the past two years. We have successfully installed two in client's homes.
Now, the disconcerting part: one client's GeoSpring started a mild intermittent beeping and displayed a Heat Pump Failure code F-C. The system was installed just 17 months prior but wasn't actually placed into service until 12 months prior.
A phone call to the GE care line resulted in three parts being shipped out and a phone number to contact the local GE Technician. GE calso offered to pay for the labor even though the labor warranty is technically only for the 1st year.
The parts arrived timely in a rather large and heavy box. The call to the local GE Technician proves frustrating, and it still pending resolution. This issue may be due to our remote location and a limited number of qualified service persons for any type of service need.
A quick look at the Lowes online reviews reveals that this heat pump failure issue is not uncommon, but rather frequent.
We really like the technology and energy-efficiency, especially when our local electric cost is $.30/kWh. If the GeoSpring doesn't fail, the payback period is less than two years.
constant running/noisy
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 07:01 — AnonymousI had this unit installed last week and found it to be annoying. It runs for hours and it is noisy. It may be too late to do anything about it now, but I am contacting the sales rep. and let him know my feelings on this unit. I live in a small home and it can be heard throughout the house. I thing he may have over sold me on this hot water heater.
Noise is normal and rep should have discussed installation optio
Sun, 12/04/2011 - 22:23 — AnonymousSorry to hear of the noise bothering you.
The noise is standard and is clearly noted in the literature and instructions.
Hopefully the person who sold you the system has stepped up and relocated the water heater to a more appropriate space.
By the way, this is a "water heater." A "hot water heater" would only heat "hot" water :~)
I just love it! Here I was,
Tue, 10/18/2011 - 11:06 — laylaI just love it! Here I was, thinking that I should replace all my old appliances except the water heater... I would be so much better off if I would just keep my old electronics, get them to appliance repair Reston VA and have them fixed and then, with the saved money, I could get an hybrid hot water heater such as this one!
30% tax credit? Only up to $500
Fri, 07/15/2011 - 12:51 — AnonymousThe big tax credits of 2010 are gone! You can only get up to $500 in 2011. So, check with your Tax preparer before you count your savings.
GE Hybrid water heater
Mon, 06/27/2011 - 15:47 — AnonymousIf installed in south Florida, would the recommendation be that the condensor be installed on the outside of the home?
Condenser
Fri, 07/15/2011 - 21:43 — AnonymousHave you done any research on this??? Do you have any idea how this technology works?? The "condensor" is in the tank, thats what heats the water......
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Installation Location
Sat, 03/19/2011 - 23:35 — AnonymousWill this unit work efficiently if installed in a garage that is very cold during the winter months?
I have read that it switches
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 08:34 — AnonymousI have read that it switches to the resistance heating elements (standard electric mode) when the ambient temp is around 45 degrees F or below. Above this temperature, the unit will still operate but would be less efficient than at higher ambient temperatures.
I will throw in my two cents that the fan noise is a major concern. The low speed is very tolerable, but if you use a lot of hot water all at once, the fans ratchet up to progressively higher speeds and they can really scream. I have ours in the basement and you can hear it clearly on the first floor; not just air whooshing but a clear pitch or tone from the fans. Keep it in mind.
I have one!
Tue, 03/08/2011 - 20:36 — AnonymousInstalled one last summer. The fan is a bit loud but it is a great unit and works like a charm. Our overall electric usage is down by at least 20%. It has great features like the vacation button. We saw a difference right away with cost and usage. I wish our utility company had longer histories so I could really compare over several years. I think that would show a significant benefit over past years for the same months. I would buy again.
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